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All right good evening to everybody joining us uh you know good morning to everybody joining us from different parts of the world uh but
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Yeah welcome to today's webinar on test more in less taking a closer look at testing right uh just a quick introduction my name is
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Dimaka and I'll be the host for today uh just going over a few ground rules your line is currently muted however you can submit
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Your questions during the webinar through the chat option or the question option at the you know at the side of the screen wherever it
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Is placed right we will answer your questions as part of the webinar as part of the Q a session at the end of the
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Webinar so you can keep posting your questions but we'll come to it at the end and try and answer them accurately uh please note
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That this webinar is also being recorded uh for those of you who want to take back and share with your colleagues you can do
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That and we'll send out the link through an email later with that said let me quickly share a bit about the break free series
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Uh you know Break Free was an idea that but out of the you know it birth out of a change in the testing space
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We have seen the testing industry evolved uh you know around you can change the screen to the next slide
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So Break Free was this idea that burned out of the need for change in the testing domain right we have seen the testing industry
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Evolved over the decades as you know a few leaders uh change leaders changed the pace of acceleration uh change of testing right and they
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Accelerated this whole change that we that was brought in however we believe that this change can be accelerated in a much faster uh pace
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And so we took the liberty of identifying a few change leaders
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And we identified uh people who are breaking the mold and embracing change uh you know on the next slide you can see some of
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These leaders that have spoken on our break free stage uh and are changing the world and changing the QA industry uh by making it
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Evolve better and that is what became you know now the break free series a change leader series our hope is that these sessions would
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Spark ideas in each of you uh to be the change in the QA industry for the better now with that let me introduce the
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Change leader for today uh Rahul parwal Rahul is a software tester and a generalist currently he works as a senior software engineer with ifm
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Engineering India he carries a diverse experience of you know different domains such as development automation automation for testing and he carries a rich all-round
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Experience around testing in in some sense he's a testing genius in some sense Rahul enjoys reading he enjoys learning and practicing the craft of
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Software testing his recent accolades include you know the Jerry Weinberg testing Excellence award this was under the rising star of the 2021 category from
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The tea time with testers uh Spanish you will find him writing about tech and exploring new places
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And you know so without further Ado let me hand it over to our speaker we are so privileged to have you on our stage
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Rahul and it's been an honor just interacting with you even before this webinar and just getting to know you a little bit better so
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Over to you Rahul uh to share your nuggets on this topic
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Thank you dinakar and uh thanks for all the wonderful uh introduction and uh words of Praise that you're given uh I am a simple
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Software tester who is curious and who likes to learn do things and follow his curiosity and I think that is the only uh thing
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That helps and that has helped me so without further Ado I mean hello and welcome to everyone who has joined this break free webinar
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Or who's going to watch this uh session later on YouTube or through email uh hi everyone uh I'm Rahul and
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I'll be talking today about test more in less a quick disclaimer before we actually start this session that whatever I am going to share
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Today it's a personal tried and tested story it's a story of experiments exploration failures learning that I have constantly gone through and uh it's
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Not some Fiction it's not something that I believe that can help people but things that I have tried in my context to improve as
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A software tester and the various lessons that I've got in form of that so let's look at some quick checkpoints that we will be
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Covering in this webinar today so we will start with a very quick checkup so this checkup would be for everybody uh there is no
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Good or bad ranking in that but we will try to see how we can take this at a better stage by the end of
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The webinar and followed by a personal story My Own Story my own story of experiences some tools and activities that I have learned and
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Found to be very useful during this journey practicing testing how to practice testing which I was talking about that I learned to for follow
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My curiosity and uh my curiosity has led me to a lot of practicing and how to do that some tips and suggestions a testing
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Kit that I created and uh how you can also create something for yourself and how you can utilize that and how you can use
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It to test more and less certain references for you to go back reflect and followed by a question and answer uh
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So that's uh the ground rule basically and and the things that we would be covering uh a point that uh dinatra had already mentioned
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But I'll just repeat that if you have any questions please put them in the uh chat and uh the team would assign them to
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Me maybe in the middle of the webinar uh or by the end where we have a dedicated q and a section and I'll be
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Answering that and uh all the links all the references that I'm going to cover I mean don't worry you'll get everything at the end
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So focus on understanding the things rather than just noting down the references and links and things that I'll be covering because you trust me
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You will get everything you'll get everything at the end so that's uh my promise to all of you so let's go ahead with a
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Very quick checkup so essentially in this checkup I'll be posting certain questions certain scenarios and if you have ever felt that if you have
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Ever experienced that you have to add plus one and if that doesn't apply to you you don't have to add plus one you just
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Keep your score as it is after all the checkpoints that I'll be covering you just have to calculate how many plus ones you have
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To add all your ones and whatever the score you have will do a quick poll and see where we all stand so the first
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Question is that add plus one if you have ever felt blocked because the requirements were not clear or not defined so if you've ever
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Felt like that how to test uh or do a better testing because the requirements are not clear or not defined they are not there
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Add plus one similarly if you find yourself spending too much time in writing bug reports test cases artifacts plans or similar kind of documents
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Add plus one if you're spending too much time there
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If you felt that you are not sure on the exact quality criteria the things that matter I mean you're not exactly sure you're just
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Testing some requirements but you actually don't know what what is the value of quality to your team or to your customer add plus one
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Uh if you have been in a project where there was no discussion around testability or developer time at plus one
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You had no awareness about the actual customer of your product for which you are testing or the competitor for example you are testing an
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Application what are the other competitor applications if you are not aware about that or if you are not aware about that add plus one
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Next question if you have not participated in any kind of a testing event in last one year R plus one I mean there are
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A lot of testing events that happen across Community for example Pcloudy did uh hackathon uh some time back so if you have not
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Participated in any such event add plus one if you've never used some kind of a checklist or some kind of a cheat sheet hack
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Sheet idea Banks and uh you're just using your mind to generate all the ideas add add plus one
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If you don't frequently engage in peer testing or I mean very minimal peer testing at work and plus one
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And the last question is that if you have not used informal sources of knowledge I mean informal sources which are not directly given to
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You or directly available to you like the user reviews or some kind of surveys or comparable products um information from certain legal laws or
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Frameworks that applies to your context and plus one so if you don't use that add plus one I'll wait on this slide for 15
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Seconds so that you can compute your score and then we will go and do a poll so
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Ten nine eight five three two one done so uh I have a question with team do we have the poll ready
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So pole is now open I I can see the pole is now open and uh
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There are four options uh that would be there for you so if your score is zero uh after all these questions select a if
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Your score is between one two three select B if it's between three to five something three four five select C and if it's five
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Plus which is six seven eight or something select d
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[Music] [Music] is done uh and we have some results uh let me know and uh we'll go and
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Talk more around the results sure I'll just give us one second which is getting the results out
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Okay so thank you everyone I mean uh participated into this polling activity and submitted their results there are no right or wrong things I
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Mean uh practically speaking I have been through all these stages and uh let's see uh how is the score
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Box you can see that okay so I see this course and I'll just announce it for everybody so the score a which was for
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Zero that is zero percent so basically nobody is on a the score b or the option b which was for one two three that's
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Uh thirty percent so thirty percent are on one two three uh then option C is 17 so 17 percent uh people are between three
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To five and uh 52 so that's more than half people are on five and above so basically six seven or some some bigger number
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And uh which means that I mean a lot of testers in their day to day work are facing challenges they are facing uh uh
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Things that that might be restricting them and today we'll see how to break us all free and how to think and uh practice things
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So that we can do something better so essentially I mean uh I think two-thirds of the people have issues or find relevance with almost
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A majority of the points and uh that's a key takeaway but uh another personal sharing that I was talking about was that I have
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Personally myself seen myself uh having a score of five plus and then moving to three to five and then moving to one two three
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And then eventually moving till zero and this journey is in progress I mean I'm also growing with each and every day I'm also learning
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I'm also practicing and uh things are going ahead but I have been through all these stages and uh
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I have learned from certain experiences uh be it at my work at ifm that I do day in and day out around testing or
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Be it by participating in various kind of testing contests testing hackathons uh testing events automation hackathons by Excel queue or by virtue so some
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All like testing events by Mulia or by the workshops I mean there have been certain workshops that I've attended for example Testing Lab Advanced
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Where where I've practiced testing and then some exercises of this these kind of workshops that I've done or rapid software testing Workshop or sessions
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Or training and exercises that I've done for them so all in all I mean this is kind of a very high level view of
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Areas where from where I have learned and uh also from the people with whom I have participated in such things I mean my mentors
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Colleagues my my peer testing buddies I mean so essentially this is a collection of all of that and essentially uh the entire Learning Journey
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Or the Journey of growth is not very simple it's not uh direct or straightforward I mean it typically consists of a lot of failures
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A lot of learning from the failures lot of evolution then some minor success then coupled or followed by failure then repeated try and so
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On and so forth so the intention of this webinar is that I try to simplify all of that and based on my learning my
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Experience and my context I give you certain valuable lessons that I have found helpful and that have helped me to go and simplify my
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Testing challenges testing problems so essentially I mean practice is important as they say I mean don't practice until you get it right because you
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Cannot get it completely right there will always be some scope of improvement but practice until you can't get it wrong and like any craft
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Uh testing is also a craft tournament testing also deserves its own practice testing also deserves its own uh groundwork and we'll be talking about
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That today so there are certain tools and activities that I have found very helpful if one wants to test more unless and today we
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Would be covering them so the first point that that we would be talking about is reusing certain good ideas what are the good ideas
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That are already available in the testing space the testing world how we can use them how we can reuse them for our context and
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Move ahead what is the power of questioning that's the second thing that we will look into how you can question assumptions and how questioning
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Assumptions can help you test better test faster we'll look into that how to do research how to explicitly hunt for information and not just
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Wait for information to come back to you because that's an important trait of professional testers they just don't restrict themselves to the information that
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They have or they that they can just get from their team but they stretch their boundaries to go collect seek out information and plug
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It and use further the next point that I'll be talking about is test Readiness what do we mean by test Readiness how one can
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Achieve test Readiness and how you can use it to exponentially speed up your work exponentially speed up your practice the groundwork and all and
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At the end we'll talk about a testing kit uh what are testing it means how it can help you how it can be used
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How it can be created even so these are the main tools and activities that we are going to talk about so the first point
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Let's start with the first point that is reusing good ideas
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So for a lot of people I mean when when I talk to people I mean a lot of times I I see that most
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People most beginners are actually not aware of the existing good ideas that are already there in the community or that are already there in
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The testing world we are not the first testers on this planet uh and we are also not the last people have worked in this
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Space they have created good things great things available made them available some of them are open source some of them are available for free
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And you can use them and build on top of them one such resource is the test cheat sheet by the ministry of testing so
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The test cheat sheet it's available on this link bit.ly mot cheat sheet and you will get this all of these references at the end
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But uh the important part of this cheat sheet is that it's kind of a stimulant uh it consists of a lot of uh test
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Ideas lot of data type attacks data uh combination kind of values that you can use Quick Test or testing mnemonics that you can use
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For testing in different context be it API Beta mobile testing be it uh some kind of a specialized hardware-based testing it's a collection of
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That I recommend to check that out and it's kind of a stimulant I mean it's not some kind of a golden rule that will
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Work in every case but it will give you good ideas to test and move ahead so this is first such resource moving on to
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The next uh another important resource that's available that is how they test how they test is a publicly available resource collection around testing
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And if you see the list of companies on the on this screen all the top companies I mean and the testing folklore the material
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The blocks the tech tech uh conference slides and so on and so forth that's available this is a compilation of that that this is
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A curation of that and uh it's the repositories by Abhijit biker uh and uh you can use this to see how other companies how
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Your maybe your competitors or how a company in a similar context is testing it what are the ideas that they are using for testing
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And how you can adapt that or how you can learn from something and a lot of times when I read certain case studies I
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Mean I get a lot of insights on similar problems that people face in their different situation or context and how they are solving it
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Important resource next let's move on to the next resource and the next resources on the lines of test ideas so
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People restrict ideas or testing ideas to requirement but essentially you can generate new test ideas from each and everything I mean there are a
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Lot of possibilities that happen because a tester's role is like like an investigator it's like a Sherlock Holmes I mean everything they see they
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Can generate some idea from that and this is a compilation of 37 such ideas that you can use with different kind of questions probes
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Guide words that can help you extract out more ideas from different things maybe from risks or maybe from tools user expectations customer stories reviews
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And how you can use all these things all these nuggets to generate more test ideas and not just restrict yourself to the base requirement
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Or acceptance criteria and and such thing and we'll also talk about that in a later section so this this is third and and one
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Of my personal favorite that that I would I wanted to talk today is common software error by Dr Kem Kaner so this is an
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Uh amazing appendic appendix it's it's a free booklet that that's available uh on the bbst website also and uh it consists of a collection
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Of 400 common software errors that that can happen in uh any kind of software application software uh program and uh how to find or
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Look for errors and once you start reading this I mean I've read this a lot of times especially before going to testathons hackathons and
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Uh what it does is that it stimulates your mind to catch and grab errors so whenever you you'll read certain pages of this I
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Mean you'll instantly start seeing different possibilities different things on the same screens that you were seeing before but now you will think and see
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Them from the mindset of catching a bug so basically this this this I personally use this as kind of a bug magnet I mean
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That my eyes become a bug magnet and instantly I start seeing issues with each and everything that that I notice not all issues are
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Of uh critical nature but often I mean you you find issues which are beyond the normal or obvious perception of a tester so this
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Is another such resource so this was point one that is reuse good ideas there are a lot of other good ideas also we'll talk
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About them in the references but uh find good ideas use them adapt them to your context and move ahead the next point is the
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On the lines of questioning assumptions and uh what do we mean by questioning assumptions so essentially I mean a lot of times we testers
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Are given with very base minimum requirements very base minimum uh acceptance criteria and we just use that and start our testing and the main
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Problem starts with that that as a tester I mean if we don't have the complete information about the things that are expected in the
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Market or about the actual problem that has to be solved by our product we cannot test very effectively we cannot test very more our
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Testing will be very restricted to whatever is written and there are ways to go beyond that to seek out information and one such ways
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To question assumptions and question assumptions early uh the earlier the better once you start questioning the the good part that happens is that from
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Acceptance criteria you you you start thinking on the lines of other kind of documented requirements be it in some kind of a flowchart models
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And how they can help you in your testing or maybe user guide some kind of written documents on jira and even I mean think
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Thinking and talking to people and asking them questions because not all required requirements are documented I mean some requirements are of course undocumented they
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Are just some kind of agreement between people or uh or silent agreement or maybe it's just some kind of a verbal discussion that happened
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In a meeting but it's not documented some message in passing or uh
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Certain thing and I mean if you question things smartly if you question things on their context I mean you can even reach to the
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Layer of desirements and unanswered and unspoken assumptions you can even tap them through your questions and uh you can reach to those levels and
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That again helps in finding more information more valuable information that can help you test better test wider test deep and essentially more so question
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Assumptions early now a constant question that whenever I talk about questioning that we get is that now whenever we sit with somebody I mean
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We cannot keep on uh asking them questions and after a point I mean after three to five questions our questions get get over I
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Mean how to ask more questions and uh the good part is that today we have resources on questioning two for example uh a resource
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Personal resource that I use a lot is context free questions for testing so this is a resource by Michael Bolton and
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This consists of a list of questions that you can ask to your team to your stakeholders and that can help you reveal the context
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Or know more about the context and more about the things that's actually expected
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And deep dive into it so it's available at this bitly cfq cfq stands for context free questions for testing it's it's I think 63
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Questions and each question helps you know better about your mission why you are testing what you have to test and what are the other
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Things that can be affected and it helps you open on the context and prepare a starting setup Crown so this is like your your
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Initial power play in a cricket match and go ahead another thing is I mean uh questioning in itself is a very valuable art and
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I found this resource uh questioning toolkit it's a educational Journal uh available at Big Dot ly slash questioning toolkit which consists of a list
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Of questions in different categories and uh which talks about how you can ask questions for example say clarification or planning or for essential questions
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So what what are the questions that that are there and different flavors of each questions and how you can ask them so questioning can
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Be learned systematically and that can help you learn more more uh thing better as a tester so I mean questioning is a superpower for
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Testers uh I I have abbreviated the term QA as questioning assumptions somebody who questions the Assumption who it's on the assumptions and and clarifies
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Thing for them so it's kind of a service that you can do for your team and that happens through questioning
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So the next thing is research info hunting I mean not all information is actually always available with your stakeholders also or your immediate stakeholders
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Also sometimes you have to go Beyond and explicitly do some research to gather information that can help you test better or that can help
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You uh dive deep into the issues that are into the features or functions that actually matter to the End customer so I'll give an
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Example of uh one hackathon or testathon where I went and I was testing this app and
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I had posted this on Twitter I got a DM and I connected with its user I I asked for some time uh they told
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Me about one one expectation that they have and then I I instantly raised it with the team and uh that actually helped me get
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Certain points and uh social media today is so powerful that I mean you can essentially if your app is public you can connect with
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People who actually use your products be it Facebook LinkedIn the Play Store app store or Twitter Instagram
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And even I mean information is today now available through Google I mean if you can search uh well through Google I mean you can
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Instantly find information and you can also use Google or or sites like craft.com to find information about your company the demographics of your customers
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Or uh what kind of personas do they have or what kind of customers or what kind of business is your company actually doing or
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The competitor is actually doing and how you can align your testing to that so this is another beautiful site hashtags can be followed and
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Uh whenever somebody else posts the information in future also you'll you'll get it in your feed so that's again a useful method so all
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In all I mean active information hunting uh actively researching for information is very very important uh and uh there are easy way to do
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That today and we just have to go beyond our normal boundaries of the requirements in G Randall and and and go and get out
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That information so that's Point number three the next point that I want to talk about is test Readiness so uh Readiness is actually setting
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A base ground so I mean for example uh if I have to play cricket match tomorrow it's important that I have the field ready
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I have my dressing kit ready I have my bat ready and a grip ready and ball ready and everything ready so that when the
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Game starts I mean I can just go and play it I don't have to wait for uh things to settle down and then I
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I go it and there are certain things that we can always keep in check one such thing is test environment I mean having the
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Right environment details listed having the facility to synchronize your environment or create your environment maybe through some kind of a set of scripts uh
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And uh using scripts to set up environment or set up the test data that you are going to use in a specific environment or
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Test data for your specific uh firmware or devices and so on and so forth you can today create scripts to help you be ready
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That whenever a new build comes you can instantly run a script create uh things and move ahead next is a recording tools so certain
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Type of recordings we we do as a tester be taking a screenshot be taking video of of certain kind of fail case or a
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JF I mean if you have recording tools ready on your test machine that's the value add uh that's that that makes work easy and
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Fast devices and Network so essentially I mean if you are into into a field like me I mean uh for example I work on
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Testing devices controllers and uh a lot of my time used to go in setting up the devices but if you can find ways that
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You have a ready-made relay with connected devices and you can instantly configure them that makes the job easy if you have Network and maybe
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Network lab available that makes the job easy for example having service access to services like third party Cloud providers for example maybe Peak cloudy
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Or something that makes the job easy that makes you more test ready having a test note template ready I mean wherever you are taking
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Your test notes uh having a template ready so that at the show time you just have to fill the information you don't have to
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Create template transactions and all the sections template everything it should be there and you just write the notes that that makes it easy and
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The last thing that I want to talk which which very less which is unfortunately very less talked about is the stability and uh a
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Lot of people just understand the stability as a provision of having automation IDs in web elements but it's way more it's way way more
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It's a Magic Band for testing it's uh it comprises a lot of things uh it could be project related it could be the availability
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Of the developer time that that you have it could be the presence of already some tests that have been done and uh some layers
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Of tests that may have been done and the product is already smooth and then given to you uh or the availability to logs uh
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To see the logs or uh to to configure logs at different levels or
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Even I mean access to databases access to code or access to tools that can make your life easy or as a tester and it's
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Important that we talk about testability it's important that we ask for tools that can help us test better and uh the important thing to
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Understand is that if you talk about it it's it's uh not going to happen that tomorrow only you are going to get a tool
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Uh from your developer for for improving your testability but eventually I mean next time when they plan something they will start thinking on this
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So starting to talk on such ideas will will help in Long Run I mean and will help smoothen your your testing effort will help
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Speed all these uh activities out and make it basically more smooth and uh the last thing that uh I want to talk in this
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Is the uh how to be more ready I mean I I typically use certain tools for for a lot of tasks these are not
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Certain best tools I mean these are just some tools that I've used been I've been using I mean and uh each tools has Alternatives
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Uh feel free to explore more and check for your context one quick extension that I use is Go full page it captures the entire
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Page screenshot in a go and you can instantly send that to somebody so that that's one thing next is bug magnet uh so whenever
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I'm doing web testing I use this extension to fill out probable tricky values and find issues so it gives me problematic values at hand
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Instantly grammarly so that I'm in my my reports can look good they don't have basic error mistakes or they they don't look sloppy uh
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In front of my stakeholder so that that helps me next is word tune for for kind of a clear and compelling writing lice cap
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If I want to create a gif if I want to save my recording as a gif it helps me next is green shot which
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Which is kind of a screenshot tool bird it works a recent find that that I've done found very useful if you want to share
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Your network logs and steps and all details with some video with some recording uh simple good browser extension tool that that's powerful magical text
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Expander I use this to fill quick templates I've created templates for my bugs change requests notes and instantly I have annotated it to certain
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Keys for example if I press B at the rate it instantly fills out my bug template or it instantly for for some other key
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It can fill out my change request template and so on similar to like magical text expander I recommend check out the video by gaurav
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Khurana uh on how you can do more uh through Auto hotkey and it's it's pretty powerful I'm using it very basic but it's a
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Powerful tool next is bitterly you cannot remember all the links I mean uh uh and bitly helps you create small shortcuts that that could
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Be your mental shortcuts and uh uh instantly you can access things very quickly quickly is a Time Saver support details instantly grab all the
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Environment details and share with anybody ux check for quick ux identifying ux issues via certain heuristics you can run it it generates report you
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Can share it attach it to bargain powerful so these are some tools I mean there are more tools but uh basic tools that that
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Helps make my life easy make my life fast and I'm gonna do do things quickly so these are some tools that I found very
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Helpful uh and uh after finding and using all these ideas tools and recording stuff and all what I have done is that uh recently
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I've created a testing kit so my testing kit can be accessed uh on web it's available on web at Bitter dot ly slash RP
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Testing kit and it's inspired from users this which which is all which actually takes interviews from people and then puts down their software things
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And Hardware that they use but uh how I have done is that different kind of things that I've used for different contexts I've created
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It as a some repository kind of a directory and where I can quickly access that and the the main idea was that I wanted
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To make all my testing resources that I've been using accessible shareable with my team with somebody whom I want to quickly share certain things
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Or ideas make it customizable so I wanted to keep it in a web-based format where I can edit it out update it and the
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Updates propagate to everybody who's using this kit and Time Saver I mean so that I I get all the things resources everything at one
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Place and that that was very important for my use case so I'll quickly show you the testing kit that I have and that can
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Give you certain ideas so it consists of environment questions data reporting best ideas recording tools different tools that you can use for it testing
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Tools uh feedback types that I can ask my stakeholders that what all kind of feedback do you want testers playground it's just a fun
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Link I mean which which points to a playground that I've created for playing games and a refreshing my uh testathon cheat sheet Hardware kit
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And certain miscellaneous stuff and for example if I click on test environment I mean how to grab environment in different contexts how to reset
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The browser environment I click on top I again land back here test ideas different kind of test ideas that are very common and most
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Often we use all are here I click on each and I I land to their specific Pages similarly uh test data what kind of
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Test data tools that I can use and I mean essentially this consists of a list of all these things I mean different test recording
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Tools or different kind of questions that I should be asking and have I asked them and have I talked about them so these are
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Just my guide guiding probes that I use uh different kind of test tools am I using this so these are just minor small test
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Tools micro tools some of them are just extensions but uh they helped me a lot I click on them if I'm there on any
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Machine and instantly install and use them and think of stuff reporting tools and different kind of feedback types I mean what all kind of
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Feedback is the stakeholder actually expecting from my testing so all such details at one place
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On the details and you get essentially everything here so that's a testing kit and uh coming back to my presentation
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So that that was about testing kit and that was about certain ideas that how you can uh do more and less I mean one
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Was reuse good ideas next was question assumptions early research info information hunting test Readiness creation of a testing kit so that you have everything
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Together and uh the most important thing I mean that that actually helps on the ground is practice and uh practicing testing so I mean a
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Very interesting question is I mean how many of you have actually tested outside your job I mean outside your work area and uh that's
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A question that you have to ask yourself I mean if you ask a cricketer I mean how many times you have practiced I mean
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They practice a lot musicians practice a lot outside their performance arts basketball players perform or practice a lot so when you go in any
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Craft any professional craft I mean people practice before their show time how much you have practiced that's a question you have to ask yourself
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And if you are not practicing enough there are ways where you can practice it well you can even get feedback and improve one such
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Ways workshops I mean this is one of the screenshot that you see on the right it's uh it's from a practice session in a
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Workshop Testing Lab advance that that I I was there and I was practicing certain testing technique on the new application and learning from it
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Testing contests you pair with people and different people come with different experiences they come with different kind of context and you learn from each
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Other and I've learned from my partners a lot I've learned a lot from testing in time box sessions and that that actually helps in
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Real life testing for open source projects I mean developers contribute to open source by putting some feature requests fixing some bug and so on
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But why can't we I mean why can't we raise change the question I've raised uh change request bugs and then advocacy or discussions with
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Developer for for open source projects and that's actually an area where they will also engage more I mean they would like feedback and they
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Would like to talk about it and uh that's a clean field I mean so uh essentially participating in open source projects actually also gives
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You a possibility to try out things that maybe your current work or job is not giving and you want to learn something look for
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Open source project that needs that for example if you want to learn mobile testing look for a open source project related to that contribute
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There learn and improve so that's another thing testing challenges bit dot ly slash testing challenges is the site a lot of trusting challenges available
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You can try that out play and learn from it testing communities in general are a very helpful place to be in I found most
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Of my peer testing partner hackathon partner testathon partner through communities we have certain small cohort groups where we uh connect for sessions test test
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Stuff out exchange reports debrief together and uh this list is more I mean this this is not just the only options there are more
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Options but once you start focusing on these you'll automatically explore more options and exploring that is important so
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Having talked about practice and Pace to practice some tips and suggestions that I want you why I want to leave with you uh first
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Practice is thousand times important than Theory I mean in theory everything looks same in practice things are different and you learn when you practice
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And you learn from practice so practicing on the ground important join communities if you are not part of it and uh engage with other
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Testers outside your job it's very important uh to to be in communities and when you are in communities one benefit is that you you
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Can instantly get the answers to the questions from people who have already done things before you or who are also experiencing it in in
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Some some other context so that's important the thing that I often tell is that your career is your responsibility your career is not the
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Responsibility of your employer it's not the responsibility of your parents or your partner it's your responsibility so take it seriously I mean and don't
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Stop here I mean you've watched this webinar you have invested uh 40 or 50 minutes of your life with me don't stop here I
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Mean try to take things from Air maybe create your own testing kit that can help you save time your own short shortcuts practice and
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And stuff but just don't stop here I mean stopping here I mean this webinar will not give you anything I mean instead of just
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Some links that that will sit with you so don't stop here practice practice that's very important I'll I'll uh blog very frequently on on
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My website that's testing tidbits why I I write answers to questions that that I usually get in form of blogs and other blogs that
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I feel are helpful or could be helpful to test Us in general or some kind of summaries to sessions and all so if you
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Like this talk I mean you can check out testing credit bits and my blog and check out similar kind of uh references articles and
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Most of the links that I have shared today most of the stuff that I've talked about today uh you can find it here so
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This is the place if you held more information and if you need more references uh these are some references that I have found and
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I have been using and I would recommend I mean you to take a screenshot of this check out each whatever is your learning style
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If it's through book check out the books if it's through watching videos check out the YouTube channels if it's through through talking to mentors
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Or seniors check out that and courses Workshop contest communities I mean uh
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So essentially check that out all of these things I mean just by basic typing on Google you can find all this information out uh
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I hope you have taken the screenshot of this or I'll wait for five seconds and uh that's pretty much I mean uh I would
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Now be opening the floor for questions and uh your thoughts questions let's talk Amanda so I can talk through your questions and uh we'll
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Wait for your questions yeah so that's essentially all okay so I see one question uh that is what does MIP mean so MIP uh
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Essentially means mention and passing so I mean when when for example you you are there in a stand-up call and you just mention about
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Certain point or somebody just talks about certain point or for example when you are in pantry or just passing through and just small conversation
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So I mean information from from that area so essentially that that's mentioned in passing
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So I have another question uh let me expand the view
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Are there any tests are there any testing contest hackathon that will happen soon how can we join such contest
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So essentially such kind of events keep on happening uh and uh they are going to keep on happening and uh how can you know
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About them I mean be in communities first thing uh
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And uh typically you'll know about it I I essentially know about all these events through through hackathons through uh I mean through through Linkedin
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Through Twitter and that's that's the place I mean and hashtag testing contest follow this hashtag so next time a testing contest happens and somebody
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Post you get that in your feed so for follow such hashtags and you'll get to know
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Thank you okay how can we practice mobile testing any references to start with mobile app testing
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So I am not a mobile testing expert but one resource that I know and I have found some of my friends to be to
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Find who find that very useful is mobile testing ready recorder
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So I've typed this and I instantly get this link mobile testing ready recorder it's a PDF free pdf uh of it's a book basically
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Available as a free PDF and uh if I don't know if like I am pasting it in the chat and I hope for somebody
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Can share it with you uh on the chat or you can just type mobile testing ready recorder so that's that's the name so that's
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A reference but now how to apply these tricks I mean take any app and start testing so I mean the main goal is I
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Mean get seek some ideas from here but then test it on an actual mobile app rather than just reading this document so I mean
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Actual testing will always help that's uh that's the answer and essentially you can practice on any any app I mean I I I participated
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In a testing contest for the test chat where we tested Amazon and I thought that Amazon cannot have basic issues or basic bugs but
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When I went there from a skeptical mindset of a tester I could find issues in Amazon also so I mean it's like I mean
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Any app you find issues if you look into that
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Okay do we have any other questions any open source applications for practicing API and micro services and Cloud testing so uh how to practice
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Testing for apis yes there are resources for that and uh let me quickly share that so
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Bit dot ly slash API testing resources I'm just uh
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No so Let's test with origin API testing okay API testing all links curated it's available on test with Arjun and Arjun has actually curated
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All these links so for API testing a lot of links have been curated and links to different sites related to API testing and it
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Also consists of certain links for practicing and links to resources which have more resources and so on and so forth so this is a
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Good reference point so yeah check this out this is
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One one that I I know for and public apis for testing uh a collective free API this is another good reference I mean it
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Consists of public apis all free uh kind of uses with with https course and so on so this you can use I'm pasting this
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In the chat and I hope somebody is can share it with you so that's another resource
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Next question will be having hello so it's a question now to the another do we have any questions that are coming
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I'm just looking up I'm just looking at uh let me quickly ask our
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Administrative in the background I see one more question what is a good amount of time to allocate every week to learn testing uh so
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I don't have any magic number but uh uh I think getting started with a couple of hours is always a good idea and then
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Uh practicing it uh taking learning and lessons from it trying to implement it in your real work that's more important rather than finding just
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A number so get started with maybe a small contest that could be your start or uh maybe a small couple of our session so
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That can that can work okay all right I think uh I mean if you have any more questions we can maybe take one or
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A couple of questions but if not uh we'll kind of wrap it up uh if there are any questions can you just pass assign
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That to Rahul I got one question that uh five book recommendations by Rahul
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So now what I I have actually done and from my style of working on my blog uh you will find a category called books
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And these are my 10 favorite books on software testing listed in order so I'll just paste the link in the chat and they will
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Share but it's available on my blog and uh listed 10 such books you can check out based on your context and what you like
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Reading you'll you'll find certain workbooks thanks another question good time to testing okay that's answered
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Okay sides okay do you recommend freelance testing for example on upwork I have actually not tried that so I should not comment on that
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But uh any testing activity that helps you and doesn't breaks any kind of legal contracts that you are in I mean that that is essentially
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Helpful so yes uh okay and for freelancing on testing check out uh
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Talks on testflix uh and uh if I'll just quickly view that so there is a amazing talk which talks about different resources it's by
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Aishwarya B uh uh and uh it's my Aishwarya week so check that out uh by Aishwarya V on testflix in test clicks and it
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Has a lot of links resources on those lines all right so that's mostly from R and uh
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And if there are any questions I'll kind of pass them on later so that we can you know
Dinakar
Thank you so much you know uh it was just great listening to you thank you for sharing your valuable insights and so many resources
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That you've shared with us I think it's going to be very helpful for all those people who are listening to us and so I
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Kind of copied all the links and I'll kind of push that through email as well so that people can get that but yeah thank
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You so much thank you for sharing it's been an honor just listening to you and uh just hearing out all those examples all those
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Best practices that you were talking about you know talking about um researching you know info hunting and Quest QA I mean the abbreviation of
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QA was something that blew my mind I think okay question and assumption if that's that's a new definition for QA itself so it was
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Just ecstatic just listening to you so thank you so much it's truly been an honor
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Testing have really given you some groundwork to work on to practice practice like Yahoo said uh and yeah thank you so much Rahul and
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Thank you to everybody who's joined us at this time of the hour I don't know where you're logging from but yeah thank you for
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Just joining us and being with us and listening and carefully being such a relationship
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Thank you thanks all uh and thanks for being such a great members and people I mean and being interactive so that actually helped take
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This uh webinar to the next level So yeah thank you
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All right thank you everybody once again and and enjoy a good evening
